tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3173562416509990686.post5374477869810420946..comments2020-10-03T13:18:06.122-04:00Comments on Bookworm: Forking the Project: Open-Source Body Positivityjfpbookwormhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09845037337646489772noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3173562416509990686.post-90497828457530332842008-04-24T12:55:00.000-04:002008-04-24T12:55:00.000-04:00Well, to be fair, a lot of people haven't talked a...Well, to be fair, a lot of people haven't talked about adapting the idea because they have no interest in doing so, but they do have an interest in not being propositioned in public spaces, and that's a completely legitimate perspective. Others might think a reformed touchfest could be a positive for them, but decide that at this point in time it's more important in being unequivocal about the version that was proposed. (That's one of the reasons I didn't talk about this as much in my earlier post, when it still wasn't clear how universally this was regarded as a Bad Idea.)<BR/><BR/>As for the "code," I think it's incomplete at best. I've no idea, for example, what to do about the issue that some people would likely get a *lot* more attention than others. And I mentioned that simply removing the focus on breasts doesn't negate the fact that we're in a patriarchy (albeit a subculture thereof), and that the connotations surrounding men touching women, women touching men, men touching men and women touching women are all different.jfpbookwormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09845037337646489772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3173562416509990686.post-63218279102204455142008-04-24T11:33:00.000-04:002008-04-24T11:33:00.000-04:00You may be experientially less familiar with cons,...You may be <I>experientially</I> less familiar with cons, but you're <I>conceptually</I> in that headspace. "Trusted stranger" is <I>absolutely</I> relevant to the context - conditionally, as you note (fen are not intrinsically "more evolved" or anything, and at any con there'll be some people who are convirgins and don't yet know the culture), but part of the foundation on which the success of fan-run cons rests.<BR/><BR/>A few folks, among those I've read (I haven't read anywhere near everything being said; there's so much), have discussed this in terms of "it could have been done better if...;" you're the only one I'm aware of who's really examining whether the idea can be adapted into something that does function positively. I love what you're coming up with, though I don't yet have more detailed feedback; I'll need to let it simmer in my brain, and reread your post again later. I'm not spotting any "broken code" yet, though.<BR/><BR/>This is a refreshing change from people leaping into this without getting at least a general idea how events unfolded - I've seen several people bitching about what they'd do if they'd been there and someone touched their breasts without asking, and several more who appear to be completely unaware that it took place in a subculture context at all (among other things - "text-literate but not content-literate" seems to be rampant in this discourse).<BR/><BR/>SunflowerSunflowerPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15069913788437731669noreply@blogger.com